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Cantering trouble

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my horse is fine cantering on trails...but in the ring he gets fussy and hard to deal with
and when i ask to canter he bucks and makes us a sight to see..

can he be barn sour.

any suggestions
thanks

Aly
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My daughters horse had that problem... We found out that when he was going into his canter he would lunge into it, the problem was his saddle. It was pinching him. We didn't realize this at first and when we changed saddles we had to re-train him for a smooth take off. He still thought he was going to get pinched..so it took a while to bring him around....
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Hi I also agree with liljo41. I retrain horses for dressage etc that have either come of the race track or just done trails and its pretty normal that when you ask them to canter in a restricted space (like an arena) they cant balance yet through all the tight turns which form the corners. When your out on trails they can travel straight and dont have to come under themselves much with their hind legs (collection) this takes time and schooling. Him bucking might just be his way of saying what you are asking him is just to hard at this stage of his training/fitness and he is avoiding it. Try using the corners to get the correct lead and then just work him quietly up the long side and make a transition back to trot before you reach the corners at the other end. Just repeating this till he gets settled and you will find he will start to anticipate the trot transition and start to collect (sort of feels like they are slowing down with in the pace)by himself before the corners then try riding thru the corner at a canter then trot transition after that. Eventually you should be able to build up to a full lap when he is strong enough and not so worked up about cantering in the arena. If this doesnt stop him bucking and getting upset have him checked out for any soreness he may have. Sorry no miracle cure here but I find most training problems have simple solutions! Good Luck
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I'm curious... when you say "the ring" is it always the same arena you're speaking of? Or does he behave this way in any enclosed arena? I've found some horses to be very specific in their reactions. I'd be interested in knowing if he does this in other locations? I've known horses that have had some sort of troublesome experience with a particular location, a particular bit, etc. and when this was changed the behavior changed.
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Lexingtonbound,
Please, if you are into cruel training methods , sell the horse to someone who will love it and respect it enough to use non-abusive training methods. It sounds to me like you are on a power trip and want to show everyone that you can overpower your horse.

Ixneigh
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Hmm, lots of comments, mostly I think the horse is confused. I'm confident in saying that he would associate the show thing with punishment as he would always be getting into trouble when confused about what the signal is. Try to get some lessons where someone can see you and what you are doing. Always remember, there isn't as much tension on both of you out on the trail as there is in a show ring. As for chaining legs and making them fall, now that's not even an option, horses aren't born with problems, people make the problems for horses.
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I think he has respect issues. Ever tried Parelli?
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GUESS ILL ADD TO THIS ALL SADDLED TRUOUBLE HAS 3 THINGS TO LOOK AT FIRST 1 EQUIPMENT 2. PYSICAL 3.TRAINING YOUR TROUBLE IS MORE THAM LIKELY NUMBER 3 SO GO BACK TO THE BASICS BUCKING CAN VERY EASLY BE STOPED BY GOING BACK TO BASICS WALK TROT ,TROT CANTER A FEW STEPS BACK TO WALK ECT.. LOOK TO JOHN LYONS TRAINING ON THE TRAIL THESE VIDEOS ARE AVALIBAL AT TRACTOR SUPPLY
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While in the ring, try making the rail a place for reward--if he's doing well at anything (walk, trot, standing still), let him be correct and relaxed on the rail. If he needs correction, gently pull him to the inside, but as soon as he's correct, let him be! Make cantering quietly a nice thing to do.

Also, watch how you're riding. You'll ride differently on a trail than you do in the ring. Make sure you aren't anticipating bad behavior--he'll know that you're expecting him to act up.
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LexingtonBound...I am not sure where you get your training methods from but please do not pass them along to others when they are both dangerous and cruel. There are many other things to try before forcing a horse to take a fall that may break his leg or severely injure him in other ways. May I suggest you take some natural horsemanship lessons and learn some more gentle ways of dealing with problems in your horses before you or they get hurt.
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Hi Aly,
I agree with Lijo41. When you're out on the trail and you are cantering, are you on a circle? It could be a balance thing, circle to small or it could be a saddle issue. When was the last time your saddle was fitted? As the horses back is constantly changing, our saddles need checking too. I believe there is always a reason for everything. Good luck.
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My Horse Used To be the same way heres what to do it sounds cruel but it teaches disipline and respect.
First Get 2Other People with on on Horse Back One on each side with leads on each side of his halter or bridle one then Canter if hes still fussy after a few laps like that do thisget long chained Hopples and atach one to the front left and the other to the back right then when he get in his Bucking mood he'll fall.
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You hit the nail on the head! When he is a good ways from the feed bucket it's not such a big deal! Try lung? you know, the rope in the round pen. make him work hard, then saddle and ride . I think he will be much more agreeable for the next few times. TRG
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Hi Aly -

Do you ride the same in the ring as you do on the trails when cantering? I bet you are more relaxed on the trails because it doesn't matter and you are worried about what people will think when you are in the ring. Try pretending you are on the trail when you are in the ring. If your horse is very sensitive at all he will probably canter off just fine - unless he truly is ring sour.

Clair :-)